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Johannes Georgius Thir, Vienna 1762 - # 2647 - SOLD

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We all like to buy a bargain. Well how about this then?

In tip top condition we'd expect a Viennese instrument by Johannes Georgius Thir to fetch around about 35-40K (K=£1000-00). Just listen to the world class players in the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra bass section playing on their master-Viennese instruments - and you'll understand just how exceptional the tonal qualities of these instruments are. So - if we said that you could own one of these fine sounding and rare instruments for about one third of the price of a nice example - we feel pretty sure that you'll agree that such an offer could be considered a bargain.

Just why is the instrument so cheap then?

Well - we're offering the instrument at this price because it is far from being in an origional or mint state. The origional varnish has been removed and replaced, the pegbox is most probably later and the ribs have suffered some quite crude patching work. In addition it is possible that some of the ribs have been overlain with a veneer and two of the ribs may date from a later period.

It seems there are a few things that you are unsure about.

Yes that's right - it really is quite difficult to determine exactly what has happed to this instrument during the course of its life.

So what are you sure about?

We're quite sure about the crucial parts of the instrument - the front and the back (which are in a very good structural condition overall) and internally the barring, stud work, linings and blocks. It is of our opinion and that of our restorer - Roger Dawson - that these do fit in quite accurately with the Thir attribution and are consistent the circa 1762 age attribution.

Are there any other features that tie in well with the Viennese tradition of making?

Yes there are:

  1. The back of the peg-box is rounded
  2. The instrument has a thickly (4mm) cut purfilling on the table. The back is not purfilled.
  3. Internally there are two upper braces a central brace and a lower brace.
  4. The spruce for the table shows a grain of irregular growth. The quarter-sawn timber shows various knots and branch markings which suggest that it was selected more for its tonal qualities than for its visual qualities.
  5. The F-holes have nicks very much in the Amati style.

Summary.

A smallish instrument bearing a label and attributed to "Johannes Georgius Thir, fecit Viennae, Annon 1762". OK - structurally certain aspects of the instrument have seen better days, but then this is very much reflected in the price. What you need to do with this instrument is focus your attention on the deep-dark -rich quality of sound that this instrument emits. It's a sound that would normally cost you in the region of 40K to buy. This surely is a fantastic bargain.

Stats:

Width at the upper bout 19.0in (48.3cm)
Width at the centre bout 14.15in (35.8cm)
Width at the lower bout 24.25in (61.5cm)
LOB 43.75in (111.0cm)
St length 43.0in (109.3cm)
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SOLD.

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